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Teen hunter to be charged with first-degree manslaughter
Posted: 09-05-2008 08:28 PM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 261 ]
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Tigers - 05 September 2008 09:46 AM
LivinUpriver - 04 September 2008 12:45 AM
Accidents_Happen - 03 September 2008 12:18 AM

This whole thing is absolutely sickening. This young boy and his family are completely devistated with all of this. No one can really understand why this happened the way it did, but he IS a responsible, loving boy and his family is NOT to blame in this.

I see.  So you think that no one’s to blame that the two boys weren’t following the safety rules of hunting that they had been taught in the hunter safety course?  They took the course, supposedly knew the rules of hunter safety, yet ignored more than a few of them and they’re not to blame in any way, shape, or form? 

And of course - the grandfather, who saw and made eye-contact with the victim and her hiking companion isn’t at fault at all for not letting them know that his teenage grandsons were up above them on the trail with rifles but no binoculars and no orange clothing.  Is he “devastated” too that his negligence had something to do with Mrs. Almli dying on that mountain?

Oh, and BTW - I saw the older brother yesterday in Concrete driving his vehicle somewhat recklessly as he did a u-turn at the end of Main Street.  Squealing his tires, going too fast, yucking it up with his buddies, driving in a foolish manner where someone could have been hurt (besides himself).  Then there’s his MySpace page that says he’s currently “stoked” and that 2009 is going to be a “kick-a** year!” (I wonder if the family Mrs. Almli was forced to leave behind are feeling “stoked” about 2009, too?)

Yeah boy, all of that really says “devastated” and that he’s taking the death (he had a hand in) of an innocent victim hard.  In fact, I’d say that says “devastated” better than a Hallmark sympathy card - how about you?

Since you are so in tune with this family, then you would know the support that there family has given to the Community of Concrete.  How much this has affected their family.

Yes, I am certain it has affected the shooter’s family.  As a matter of fact, I was one of the first in this forum to come to the defense of both of the boys and express concern for their mental and emotional welfare now and in the future.

So, go ahead and try to villify me all you want (yes, I know you will have to look up what the word “villify” means), but the fact remains that I have sympathy for what the shooter and his family are going through.  But above all, my sympathies are with the Almli family more - as they should be.

Tigers - 05 September 2008 09:46 AM

The older boy is and older HS Boy.  No different than numerous kids inside of Concrete and many in which you probably would not expect to act that way.  The older boy is stoked for 2009 as he will be receiving his diploma.  That is the reason. No matter what the incident brought the worse things for either of the kids is to shut down and stop trying to live a normal life.

Yeah...ummm...could you work on your syntax and grammar there so that your thoughts are a little more succinct and palatable for digesting...?

Tigers - 05 September 2008 09:46 AM

The more I read your post the more irritated that we have people like this that live in our community. Sickening..

The more I read of and hear from people like you (who, I assume, is one of the “it’s the victim’s fault” or “it’s the victim’s fault too” crowd), the more I realize that in many ways Concrete has really changed and in other ways it really hasn’t changed at all.  Either way, the town of Concrete loses - big time.  But then, what do I know?  I don’t live in Concrete.

And BTW...please consider going back to school (if you’re not in) - that GED really isn’t doing you any favors.

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Posted: 09-07-2008 05:43 PM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 262 ]
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WOW...Tigers (or whoever) you didn’t read all the posts did you?  LivinUpRiver HAS been one of the only ones to defend the family....really.

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Posted: 09-07-2008 11:16 PM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 263 ]
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Manerva - 07 September 2008 05:43 PM

WOW...Tigers (or whoever) you didn’t read all the posts did you?  LivinUpRiver HAS been one of the only ones to defend the family....really.

Only to a point I have.  I believe that the grandfather holds some real responsibility.  I believe that the older boy is not showing much remorse. 

I also believe that the entire family is going through a terrible time and will for a very long time to come.  As it should be - taking someone’s life must never be something just forgotten about after the funerals are over, the cut flower arrangements have dried up, and the sympathy cards stop coming.

I also still hope that he doesn’t do more than 3-4 months in juvie.

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Posted: 09-08-2008 11:06 AM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 264 ]
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Livn up River,

Get a damn life.  Really..you have nothing better to do than read a H.S. kids Myspace.  I would encourage him and the rest of the community to try and return to some form of normalcy.  Yes, there are those grieving, but life can not stand still.

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Posted: 09-08-2008 07:03 PM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 265 ]
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watch dog - 08 September 2008 11:06 AM

Livn up River,

Get a damn life.  Really..you have nothing better to do than read a H.S. kids Myspace.  I would encourage him and the rest of the community to try and return to some form of normalcy.

My-my, so testy.  I have a life, thanks.  I happened onto his MySpace page because I have a MySpace page myself.  Any more comments about how I should run my life, Dog?

As far as returning to “normalcy” - would that be the kind of normalcy where grandfathers take their grandsons hunting ill equipped (no binoculars like they should have had and no orange clothing like they should have been wearing) and don’t let unaware hikers he has seen know there are hunters with guns ahead of them?  Would that be the kind of “normalcy” where teenage boys sit high up on a very popular hiking trail and shoot across three trail switchbacks while using only a scope to identify their target (both against WDFW regulations)? 

Would *that* be the kind of normalcy you’re thinking of?

watch dog - 08 September 2008 11:06 AM

Yes, there are those grieving, but life can not stand still.

Hmmm...how about you tell the Almli family that?

But, gee...while you’re so good at telling people how they should live their lives and what they should do with them, what do you think I should I fix for dinner tonight?

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Posted: 09-09-2008 01:26 PM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 266 ]
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Up the creek,

Not sure you’ll have much time for anything other than frozen as your busy “happening upon” teens my space sites.  Actually I would say normalcy would be for the brother and accused to try and remain positive in high school rather than crawl in a hole and stop living.

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Posted: 09-09-2008 11:17 PM  [ Ignore ]  [ # 267 ]
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watch dog - 09 September 2008 01:26 PM

Up the creek,

Not sure you’ll have much time for anything other than frozen as your busy “happening upon” teens my space sites.

Yes, with a full-time job, a home to keep up, and several other adult pursuits that demand responsibility and accountability, it is difficult to find time to prepare and enjoy a meal that takes time and effort.  While I imagine a life like that but a pipe-dream to you, many of us find that “frozen” often fills a need and is certainly more than a step-up from *your* usual Happy-Meal fare.

watch dog - 09 September 2008 01:26 PM

Actually I would say normalcy would be for the brother and accused to try and remain positive in high school rather than crawl in a hole and stop living.

Remaining positive - well, there’s certainly nothing wrong with that.  It would be wrong, however, to completely forget that the family Mrs. Almli was forced to leave behind way too early probably isn’t looking at life too positively now.  Nor are they very likely to be “stoked” about the trial and their future without their loved one.

As far as “crawl[ing] in a hole and stop[ping] living”...no one here, even the boys’ harshest critics has suggested such a thing.  I dare say your hyperbole gives you away.

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