Common Sense
You believe injecting a compound containing a very active element to drinking water is ok, because it is only PPM and that it makes it less of what it is?
Where is the common sense with that?
Now answer my question that I originally asked,
“Why doesn’t Delta Dental/Washington Dental Service put the Millions they donate to where it is really needed?”

LaneW
Following your warped senses there would be no Iodine in Salt, Vitamin D in Milk, Clorine in the water system and no sewer sytem in general.  Should we all live in cabins near Lincoln, Montana?

WSDA Foundation donates millions for care, supports free clinics, the Dental Schools and other organizations.  But it isn’t enough but you don’t care.

As far as Taxes, we have not a concept of Exorbinent Taxes, typical whiner to think so.  Look to Canada and Europe to see 50%-75% tax rates, now that is exobinent.

Wake up and don’t be so selfish or just leave the state!

You actually have to work for a living before you can really grasp the concept of taxes.

Now, I can’t remember… Are my taxes “exorbinent” or are they “exobinent?”

English - Don’t leave home without it.

Thank you! Nice to see you have enough time to point out a typo. 

You people are a waste of oxygen and not worth anybodies time.

Did you mean to write “anybody’s” time?  Another “typo” perhaps?

Education - Don’t leave home without it.

“Common sense,” if you have a license to practice medicine or dentistry, you need to surrender it before you hurt someone. As I told Dahlstedt, he can’t find any “medical anomalies” because no one is looking for, much less documenting them. I have a friend who is highly allergic to fluoride. When her dentist screwed up and gave her a fluoride rinse, she accidentally swallowed some of it. On her way home, she developed severe gastrointestinal problems and began to break out in hives. She called Skagit Valley Hospital, described her symptoms, and suggested that they were due to fluoride poisoning. The on-duty nurse was stumped. After looking it up on her computer, she found that my friend was absolutely correct. So much for competent medical data collection in the Skagit Valley.

Tell me, “Common sense,” if water fluoridation is so effective, why did 12-year-old Deamonte Driver die from oral disease last year in fluoridated Prince George’s County, Maryland? Why does his whole family have rotten teeth? You don’t suppose that it has more to do with proper oral hygiene and dental care, do you? See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022702116_pf.html

If fluoride is so effective, “Common sense,” why didn’t Prevident stop the unexplained runaway tooth decay that I experienced between 2001 and 2002? I’ll tell you why. It was the acid level in my mouth caused by undiagnosed endocrine system failure that was rotting my teeth at an unprecedented rate. I discovered later that the antidepressants I had been given for a nonexistent condition only accelerated the decay process *because* they contained fluoride. Unless you slept through medical history class, you have to know that fluoride was a standard treatment for hyperthyroidism until the 1950’s. After I found a *competent* physician who ordered the proper lab work, I was given prescriptions to augment thyroid and adrenal gland function. The progression of tooth decay ceased!

“Common sense,” on the previous page, you complain of anti-fluoride “scare tactics” put forth by Jo Roark, me, and others. Just what is it that you’re doing with your guilt trips concerning frightened children? In the first place, I am not anti-fluoride. If you want to ingest the substance, you go right ahead. Your attempt to shift the focus is nothing more than a smoke screen to cover for your own inadequacy in the disciplines of biochemistry and public health. You look at the following speech given by the former CEO of WDSF and you will find that public health is mentioned only in passing. The rest of it is political claptrap focused on “adventures in public policy making.”
http://www.skagitcleanwater.org/fluoride-101/gih-tracy-garland.html

Irtnog is correct. The education exhibited by so-called professionals who push fluoridation is shockingly limited. However, I do see that you are able to read some of the talking points provided by your handlers, “Common sense.” The manner in which you mix fluoride compounds with nutrients is proof that you and Howard Leibrand faked your way through basic chemistry. When you attempt to place fluoride in the same category as iodine and vitamin D, you are calling it a nutrient. Nutrients do not fight bacteria such as Streptococcus mutans. However, pharmaceuticals do. Therefore, if fluoride controls these bacteria, it must be a drug. Make up your mind, “Common sense.” Which is it? I suppose some activist judge might allow it, but you can’t have it both ways.

“Common sense,” you are in no position to lecture anyone on the subject of dosages and concentrations of an administered drug. Clearly, with the wide variety in the amount of water that is consumed daily by different individuals – especially children and athletes – there can be no control of dosage! Since ingested fluoride is known to be stored in the human skeleton, concentration is irrelevant. It is simply a matter of how quickly the substance is going to build up in any given person. For those who doubt the significance of accumulated fluoride, I suggest that you join the forensic team that is searching for additional Charles Manson victims in Death Valley. Once cadaver dogs pinpoint an area of interest, a “sniffer” is used to detect fluorinated hydrocarbon compounds,

(continued from above) one of the approximately 400 types of volatile organic compounds emitted by human bodies during decomposition. On the scene, researchers from Tennessee’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory report that focusing on these compounds is important because it is believed they’re formed as the fluoride added to urban drinking water is released after death. Imagine that – fluoride is still leaching from human remains nearly four decades later! For the whole story, see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338208,00.html . Until you do your homework, “Common sense,” you have no business commenting on fluoride. Now, pull your head out (of the sand?) before you go look another nine-year-old in the eyes.

Don,
Your references prove my point about fluoride and other succesful public health measures.  You need to move to a cabin in the mountains of Montana because friend you are as much a danger to society as Theodore Kaczynski.

For somebody that uses Common sense as a handle, you have way too many points of error. I see that you have studied and accepted the pros’ doctrine that was been written in the 20 century, and can’t see anything thing else through your rosy glasses.
I would also like to commend you for the good job with following the political play book.
Going after a person’s character it is item #1,
Just remember this is all for the children, or is it?
Good luck and
Best

Perhaps you would care to elaborate, “Common sense?” My references just revealed fluoridation to be a failure and you a liar.

Irtnog, Don and LaneW,
You prove that you can’t use true facts, logic and reason for those who are blinded by their own twisted minds.  Like it or not you three fall into this group.  It is amazing to me how much time you spend lurking over the SVH comment pages yet claim to have jobs?  hmmm…

You’re a little off track I thought this was to be about Fluoride not about things I have not said
And by the way I see you are here to, if you have not noticed.
So who is the shrew?
let focus, Consider the following:
- Dental fluorosis: Definitive sign of systemic fluoride poisoning. - The FDA admits: No scientific proof that water fluoridation chemicals stop tooth decay and are safe for lifetime ingestion.
- Centers of Disease Control (CDC): Up to 48 percent of children in fluoridated areas now have dental fluorosis, 4 percent have permanently yellow or black stains and pitting (severe fluorosis).

(continued from above)
- JAMA: Hip fractures 86 percent higher in fluoridated areas. Fluorosis of teeth or bones causes tensile strength loss, particularly affecting hips.
- The NYSDJ: Children 6 months to 3 years, no more than 1/4 gram of fluoride/day, or the equivalent of 8 oz. of fluoridated water.
- The CDC: No fluoridated water in infant formulas.
- Eight studies: Fluoride lowers IQ/learning

Hmmmmmmmmmm............

“Common sense,” I was forced into a medical retirement at age 50 because of malpractice by an incompetent pro-fluoridationist phactory phamily physician who couldn’t tell the difference between “depression” and endocrine system failure, which is now permanent. I couldn’t very well make it into work every day when I would fall asleep at the wheel during the commute. It’s a wonder I didn’t kill someone or myself before I was properly diagnosed. How many patients have you left incapacitated with your obvious uselessness? Unlike you, I have delivered source material to back up my statements. Your repeated failure to provide specifics in support of your allegations is nothing short of amusing. You may as well follow richiem999 out of here with your tail between your legs.

Do you actually ready the CDC reports you quote,"Fluoride is a safe and effective in caries control.” World Health Organization identifies Fluoride in water as one of the top ten successes of in public health in the 20th century.  Again you need to read and understand dosages, thearputic levels and ppm calculations.  Show me the dead, bone cancer and other health problem your warped mind creates in Anacortes, Fluoridated since 1962.  You can’t because it doesn’t exist.  You also need to understand you live in a democracy and the people voted and you LOST! 

Your blinded by your googled incorrect “facts” and distorted views it is apparent that any energy put towards enlightening you is a waste.  Enjoy your next government check, know that part of it comes from me. 
Your friend.

Don:  Your health problems are unfortunate.  But for you to want to deny tens of thousands of others the proven protection of fluoride based on some personal perceived allergy is both crazy and extremely selfish.  If one person is allergic to chlorine in water, should it be banned from an entire community’s water system, even though it’s the best answer to ensure the water is safe to drink?  Do we completely ban combustion engines because some people have serious lung problems, allergies or other conditions?  Of course not.  I’ll keep you in prayer.

I do understand that it is all about dosage for those who want or need it.
Tell me how with drinking water that is done?
And if you have not seen there has been new studies done in the 21st century, get with the times

With drinking water it is done because fluoridation works best with small .7ppm-1.2 ppm daily doses topically on the teeth.  Water fluoridation is an effective way to do that because it happens without having to put much effort into it. Parents do not have to remind children.

Your right LaneW that it is the 21st century and Skagit county is behind the times to not already have our water fluoridated.  Please expand your mind and read the following link.

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/benefits/background.htm

Don,
Did you actually read that fox news article?  It uses the detection of Fluoridated Hydrocarbons to find graves.  It doesn’t claim or give any account that people died of Fluoride. 

If you are going to site an article at least read it.

“With drinking water it is done because fluoridation works best with small .7ppm-1.2 ppm daily doses topically on the teeth.”

Man, you can’t really be this dumb.

The question of “how do you control the dosage” asks how to control the amount of water consumed on a daily basis.  Some people might drink one glass of water daily and others might drink a dozen glasses.  And your blather doesn’t even address the effects of fluoride on the rest of the human body.

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