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SATURDAY SOAPBOX | Herald Letters to the Editor | April 5

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April 05, 2008 - 07:10 AM


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Relationship philosophy cracked

This is in response to Mr. Smith’s March 29 letter:

How telling that an intensive study of “personality and marriage,” conducted by an embittered male divorcé, would yield conclusions such as this little gem: women, busied by “hair appointments, socials” and other “deviatory” activities, drive their husbands to “sexual starvation.”

And how predictable that the author of such a study would then extrapolate that the reason why wives stand by their scandal-ridden husbands is because they feel guilty about their own deviations.

First off, universalizing either gender in such terms is never prudent because such “conclusions” are invariably erroneous. Second, trivializing (and falsely representing) women’s lives and relegating their existence to sexual objects by saying that their husbands married them purely for sex is a reflection of an uninformed and inhumane gender paradigm.

Statements like Mr. Smith’s are atrociously degrading to all women on the face of the Earth. Furthermore, he managed to portray men as Neanderthal lechers who are motivated chiefly by their carnal instincts and who are incapable of taking responsibility for their own immoral actions.

Though it may be too late for those who have subscribed to Mr. Smith’s marriage and/or relationship philosophy, I would hope that my generation continues to discern the ridiculousness of such antiquated notions that have long since been debunked.

P.S.: Women who are forced to work in prostitution do not “thrive” — just like other sexually abused, exploited and ruthlessly demeaned human beings around the world do not thrive. Perhaps what is thriving is the number of men financing the ultimate degradation of women and children via the sex industry.

Kirsten White
Mount Vernon



Cow died from eating broken glass

We lost a pretty little heifer yesterday. Her belly swelled from internal bleeding and her mouth was cut up. She had eaten glass from a broken beer bottle in her pasture.

Every day, passing cars dispose of their “open containers” by throwing them out of the window. We try to keep the glass picked up but can’t always find it all. You might think that cows are pretty dumb to eat broken glass hidden in the grass, but, in my opinion, the guy who threw the bottle into the pasture in the first place was the idiot.

So for those of you who drink and drive and need to dispose of the evidence, please consider the collateral damage to livestock, and find another solution. It’s not that difficult; you only need to be smarter than the cows. Thank you.

Mindy Coslor
Sedro Woolley



Bush, Ho Chi Minh commonalities

Any commander in chief who authorizes torture should be immediately impeached. Many of us vowed to never be taken prisoner if we were shot down during our 100-mission tour over North Vietnam. We decided that we would rather die than be treated like a terrorist and tortured by the enemy.

I fought for our country for 25 years to ensure our freedoms, and many of my fellow fighter pilots paid the ultimate price for this freedom. Now, we have an administration that condones torture and spies on Americans. Our military combatants have been abused in Iraq and now they have a president who advocates the use of torture.

Lt. Bush avoided combat by hiding behind his family name and connections in Texas — never had to worry about torture. Now, Bush is further abusing our military combatants, as the enemy will have no qualms about returning his torture methods.

It is difficult to distinguish the difference between Bush and Ho Chi Minh when it comes to torture and abuse of the military.

Lt. Col. Val Ross Johnson, USAF (Ret.)
Anacortes



World nearing a new beginning

In my understanding, our world is in an ending which is also a beginning, and has been for several years — the first of its kind since it all began.

This ending and beginning are taking place simultaneously, planetarily and interwovenly.

I sense that the beginning is commencing to emerge out of the ending (which we are reading and hearing about daily), so that the former will become more obvious with time by way of this sign and that — taking us toward peace on earth, while the events of the latter will cease to occur.

This is, without doubt, the most interesting time to be alive.

Leland Mellott
Mount Vernon



Iraq war unleashed devastation

Politicians and pundits continually talk about the war in Iraq in terms of America winning or America losing. Isn’t it at least a bit sickening to speak of an invasion that has caused the death of as many as 1.2 million Iraqis as if it were a sporting event?

In 2006, a study by John Hopkins researchers indicated that more than 600,000 had died due to the war at that time. Since then, studies by Iraqi researchers and the prestigious British polling firm Opinion Research Business have concluded that between 1 million and 1.2 million Iraqis have perished due to the war and the resulting Sunni-Shiite violence. These studies are ignored by our media and dismissed by our politicians. We deny the facts to calm our consciences.

But if we continue to view the war and the death of such a massive amount of innocents in a simple-minded and self-absorbed manner more suited to a baseball exhibition game or a scratch-off lottery ticket, we will not bring anything productive to Iraq; we will never, ever do anything good in this country in which we have unleashed such unthinkable devastation.

Bob Hicks
Clearlake



Liberals’ chickens home to roost

Observing the chaos on the political landscape and the unraveling of the liberals, there is only one conclusion to this mess: Their chickens have come home to roost.

Gary Helm
Burlington



Warming? Who are you kidding?

Fellow Skagitonians, take note.

Divine Revelation has settled it, with this week’s unusually cold weather and late snows! Clearly, this proves that they were dead wrong — those arrogant scientists, secular humanists, pesky evolutionists, Al Gore and his liberal Democrats, and others of that troublesome and fear-mongering ilk — about their pernicious myth of global warming and climate change.

At last, we have some solid and persuasive evidence to settle the argument and end the debate.

Bill Burley
Mount Vernon



We agree on concept of choice

Regarding Martha Williamson’s March 29 letter: Now I get it. We do agree on the concept that we have a choice — “chance to either believe or not.” It’s what we attribute that choice to that we differ on.

You presume that choice is given exclusively by your god; a deity of a belief system which is most often perpetuated through impression upon the psyche of a defenseless infant. While I attribute that choice to my own natural ability to think, free to include or discard the influence of superstition, free to consider all that may be within as well as beyond the confines of your Bible.

You do realize that I have read John 3:16-18, right? You included it in one of your previous redundant letters. And it’s not too hard to find such information, as the dogma of Christianity litter all of American society and can easily be stumbled upon throughout the Internet.

However, if you have just a wee dash of that John 3:16-18 left over, why not give ’er one more shot, Martha? As they say, the third time’s a charm. Who knows, you may just be successful in pulling me into the mental confines of your Bible after all.

If and when you do succeed in your effort, I’ll be sure to announce my born-again status right here in this Saturday Soapbox forum, though I’ll recommend you not hold your breath on that one.

Patrick K. Goff
Sedro-Woolley



Warming doomsayers are lying

We face an economic disaster that could be worse than any most of us have ever seen. The cost of food has doubled or more because we’re converting food stock into a horrible substitute for gasoline. By now you should know how insane this has become.

For years, the environmentalists and assorted others have caused endless destruction in our lives. Today, it appears they have control of our lives as never before. Let’s review this global nonsense with the Kyoto Protocol, made up of subscribing nations that shut out those with far different views.

For almost eight years, Bush has been the butt of snide comments for not signing this notorious accord, comments which ignore the fact that Clinton refused to sign, too. Ninety-five senators also said no. Bit by bit, the fright freaks have won over the minds of those who will fall for anything.

Last year, one of the few who still had a clue, Bush, caved in, too. This crowd also got a slim majority of the not-so-supremes of the court to list CO2 as a dangerous pollutant. Saner minds today said, “Hey, not so fast. There simply isn’t enough evidence, and lots of questions, not to mention the radical ruin of our economy.”

Have you any idea what this idiotic act means for all but those who are getting rich? Make no mistake, too many today don’t care a whit about the results to America and, yes, the world.

If you don’t know squat about this disaster in the making, find out all you can about carbon dioxide.You can’t live without it; it is essential to every living thing. If you have a speck of good sense, you can know this is a deliberate lie and scam.

John Hammons
Anacortes



Wackos destroying Dem Party

Somebody throw my old pal Tom Montgomery a life preserver. His party is disintegrating so fast that he’s thrown himself into a self-created sea of fantasy, as illustrated by his March 29 Saturday Soapbox letter. He doesn’t swim so well there.

His fantasy conversation between Karl Rove and President Bush was cute but completely devoid of the intelligence he usually uses in his letters. Let’s nurse him back to reality.

 Social Security was doomed the day it was created and started it’s final death spasms the day the babies boomed. That was long before either of the Bushes (or Clintons) arrived.

 If anyone sent Fox News a copy of the ranting Rev. Wright, it was Hillary, not Karl.

 This sleazy attempt to discredit John McCain’s war record shows obvious desperation in the leftist camp. Only the lowliest liberal wacko would suggest that having a father and grandfather as admirals was anything other than a huge honor.

Of course, Mr. Montgomery’s letter was a fantasy conversation between two men he considers evil, so he can make these sleazy accusations and still pass himself off as an honorable American patriot.

Somebody tell me, what was wrong with Joseph Biden? I’ll answer that. He had no act for the wacko circus. He isn’t black. He isn’t a woman. And he isn’t gay. All the Democrats needed to do to take the White House was to get Joe to announce that he was secretly a gay atheist with socialistic tendencies, and bang, Hillary/Obama never happened.

I would have voted for Joseph Biden simply because he could have been smart enough to tell the liberal nuts what they need to hear, to get them to do what we need them to do.

That’s reality. Welcome back, Tom.

Jerry Hansen
Burlington



Three-strikes law nabs wrong folks

Back in 2001, the Washington Sentencing Guidelines Commission had recommended removing second-degree robbery and some forms of second-degree assault from the list of offenses that trigger life imprisonment under the harsh three-strikes law. To date, nothing has been done. These offenses are the most common causes of life imprisonment under this law.

The voters approved of this law in 1993 after being told that “by aiming at three-time violent offenders, (it) targets the ‘worst of the worst’ criminals.” Now very few people would consider second-degree robbery or assault as the “worst of the worst” crimes. Those guilty of horrendous crimes are serving this same sentence and surely this punishment was meant for them, the truly “worst of the worst.”

How can we condone incarcerating people for life for low-level offenses? How can we condone the expenditure of $1 million in tax dollars for each of these life sentences?

Cheryl Onstad
Anacortes



Vehicle accidents change lives

Four years ago, my son was involved in a car accident. A young girl ran a stop sign, and he hit her. Not only was this accident her fault, she was under-insured.

She was not injured but my son suffered a significant neck injury, which eventually resulted in having to have two surgeries. This accident has affected his life negatively in almost every single way — physically, emotionally, financially, work-wise, hobbies, you name it.

Here’s my point. In the past 10 days, I have seen four people run stop signs and three people run red lights. Here’s the best example: I am driving the first car sitting at a red light in the intersection. The car behind me pulls into the left-turn lane, runs the red light and makes a right turn in front of me.

I am asking people to stop and think. Do you want to change someone’s life forever because you can’t be bothered to stop or obey a simple traffic law? These little antics and shenanigans really aren’t cute and can have devastating consequences.

Gerine Voegtlin
Mount Vernon

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Report Violation  Posted by Don Johnson  on  April 05, 2008 - 08:48 AM

Bill, you are jumping to conclusions with your “Devine Reveleation” based on one week of “unusually cold weather and late snows.” Not even one full season of such proves anything. Gore and company’s claims are equally premature. Although humans very definitely affect local climate with “heat islands” and choking pollution, it is very doubtful that we are the “cause” of global warming or any other type of large-scale climate change. One look at satellite imagery between its inception and today proves that the north polar ice cap is disappearing. Native Alaskans are all too aware that the permafrost is melting. Although chunks of ice sheets continue to break off in Antarctica, I am not quite certain how the continent is faring as a whole. (continued below)
Report Violation  Posted by Don Johnson  on  April 05, 2008 - 08:48 AM

My take is that meteorological experts are correct in pointing out that the average global temperature is inching upward currently. However, Gore’s suggestion that it will increase at anything like a constant rate is insanity. Nature doesn’t work like that. More than anything, our own sun helps to steer the jet stream and influence both long and short-term climate. I am more interested in waiting to see how the next solar maximum pans out. If predictions are correct, it could be the most active in over 50 years. In the late 40’s the northern lights were sometimes visible down to the Mexican border! For more on general solar properties, I suggest http://www.john-daly.com/solar.htm as interesting reading. Watch for auroral activity at http://sec.noaa.gov/pmap/ .
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 05, 2008 - 01:51 PM

Col. Johnson-
Once again we've been treated to your monthly tirade of anti-Bush claptrap. The way you, the "war hero" of the editorial page, get the vapors every time Guantanamo or waterboarding is mentioned. it's a good thing you were never captured. You'd have never survived.

It galls me the way you use your retired status to slander Pres. Bush, knowing if you had said the same things while active you'd have been lucky to have made 1st Lieutenant, let alone Lt. Colonel.

FYI, I was in Vietnam myself, on the ground, where I stood a much better chance of being killed than on some safe base back in Thailand

I don't advocate the brutal methods used by our enemies, but if I can get useful info by pouring water on an enemy's face, hand me a bucket!
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 06, 2008 - 11:44 AM

According to Mr. Hammons, the cost of food has risen because of its conversion to fuel. I'd like to see some fact-based evidence to back that assertion. If it is all supply vs. demand theory, then while the cost of food is going up because of its conversion to fuel, then the cost of petroleum-based fuel should be declining. But the fact of the matter is both food and fuel prices are on the rise. Make some sense of this for us, Mr. Hammons.
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 06, 2008 - 11:48 AM

pcNOT - could you address the issue without personal attack? The facts are: Bush avoided overseas combat service. He supports torture-based interrogation techniques. Our military is thrust in the middle while waiting for the label of "win" (which is?). How do you defend these facts?
Report Violation  Posted by Irtnog  on  April 06, 2008 - 02:58 PM

"pcNOT - could you address the issue without personal attack?"

Which issue is that?

The issue of Mr. Johnson comparing the American President with Ho Chi Minh? The issue of Mr. Johnson's ultra-left political leanings? Or the issue of Mr. Johnson's aggravatingly egotistical habit of posting his name, rank, and serial number everytime he signs his name?
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 06, 2008 - 03:40 PM

I posted the issue, Irtnog. But instead of looking at the issue, you play shoot the messenger with those who point out the facts. Would you like to try again, please?
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 06, 2008 - 03:43 PM

Irtnog - how do you define "ultra left", those who do not support torture? Those who want to see a wise and not frivolous use of our military members? Those who point out the president's lack of credibility? That's not left or right, Irtnog, that's just sensible.
Report Violation  Posted by Irtnog  on  April 06, 2008 - 04:57 PM

I can barely hear you shouting from so far to the left.
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 06, 2008 - 07:25 PM

Nice non-answer Irt.
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 06, 2008 - 10:22 PM

"...could you address the issue without personal attack?"

tea_time - I addressed precisely the issue I wanted to address, namely Mr. Johnson's annoying habit of unabashed self-aggrandizement and seemingly unlimited supply of left-wing lunatic vitriol. Who are you to presume to tell me what my own issue is?

I couldn't care less about Johnson's or your "facts", real or imagined. Johnson knows the real truth; when he shades it, he's a liar. You most probably do not; when you spout off you're simply a fool. I have very little use for either.
Report Violation  Posted by Irtnog  on  April 06, 2008 - 10:51 PM

Right on, Mr. 'Not!
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 07, 2008 - 06:29 AM

So, pcNOT, your issue is personal and you could care less about facts. Thanks for clarifying.
Report Violation  Posted by Irtnog  on  April 07, 2008 - 08:02 AM

"...and you could care less about facts."

You never know, maybe ol' pcNOT "COULDN'T care less about the facts."

English - Don't leave home without it.
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 07, 2008 - 08:38 AM

You really don't get it, do you 'T'? If you could stop your spinning for a few minutes and get your eyes focused on something besides, "Hate Bush..must hate Bush...must...hate...", you might but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 07, 2008 - 06:20 PM

Irtnog, you're always quick to pick up on the important issues, eh?

PC - the only "hate" that's apparent here is directed toward a well-decorated veteran. And why? What issues does he highlight to cause such a response?
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 10, 2008 - 09:29 PM

And with that question, the responses ended.
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 10, 2008 - 11:55 PM

No, dude. You just got really BORING.
Report Violation  Posted by *shrug*  on  April 11, 2008 - 11:06 AM

Wow, pcNOT! You're not all that good at this. You know, Irtnog would have responded with much more wit and acerbity. You've got a lot to learn about being a proper annoyance on these boards. I wish you the best of luck! XD
Report Violation  Posted by *shrug*  on  April 11, 2008 - 11:08 AM

tea_time, don't waste your time with pcNOT! It looks like any plans on making new synapses fire is a lost cause. :) As far as your question, I think you know the answer. The veteran in question does not blindly follow the leader, which is offensive to those who do. It is, effectively, showing them for what they are.
Report Violation  Posted by Irtnog  on  April 11, 2008 - 12:19 PM

"The veteran in question does not blindly follow the leader..."

Sure he does - his leader George Soros.
Report Violation  Posted by tea_time  on  April 11, 2008 - 08:09 PM

You know shrug, with people like pcNot and Irtnog, there would be no United States of America, which was founded by those who dissented from a country whose leader's actions did not represent the peoples' interests. Now we have those who will not answer basic questions regarding their slander of a well-decorated military officer, who instead sound like they may be following the Britney Spears doctrine which says, "I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens." Sure doesn't sound like the doctrine of the founders of this nation!
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 12, 2008 - 12:51 AM

tea-time - So Irtnog and I are Spears and Hilton to yours and shrug's Jefferson and Madison? I guess if I had a mind it would be reeling right now.
You might recall I was the one who used "slander" in reference to Mr. Johnson's "facts" about Pres. Bush. I have some issues with the prez myself but calling him a wiccan or a transvestite, for example, wouldn't be true nor would it bolster my case. If Bush is guilty of bad judgement, fine, but it doesn't make him a war criminal.
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 12, 2008 - 01:04 AM

To continue, I never, at any time, made a personal attack on Mr. Johnson, did I?
I made three assertions, none of which have been since been mentioned, let alone refuted. One, that he likely was stationed out of harm's way; two, that he would never have held up in captivity; and three, that he waited till his retirement was secure before criticizing his leaders. Ask yourself this: if Johnson found the things he was doing as a warrior so distasteful, why didn't it stop him from putting a full career in the military? Could it be that his pension topped his princlples?
Report Violation  Posted by pcNOT!  on  April 12, 2008 - 01:33 AM

Finally, my lack of response to your goading had nothing to do with a lack of wit or misfiring synapses, neither was I daunted by your presumed intellectual superiority. Truth is, your really WERE getting boring.
BTW, damning Irtnog with faint praise in an attempt to belittle me won't work. Your tactics are amateurish at best. I can be as good at this as I need to be and I'll take a back seat to no one when it comes to being annoying. Good day.

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